Operation Flamming Dart!

[ArcticWinter]

I think it would be great! If the towers became unkillable! (Or respawn again in like 3 sec) For me the map is no longer any fun, i dont play in it that much anymore, because its the same again and again, NVA blow up US towers, US loses there bases, and then NVA do raping on the Tango, and game over for US, lol. I leave the server the most of the times, because i hate that map so badly now. But, lets se what happen.

 

[Player_0]

change the US cobras for Huey gunships since they now have unlimited heat-seeking rockets from two F-4's and two Cobras. i just think it would be fair :|

It might be. But I'm sure there have to be no vehicle changes on Hello server -- unmodness is it's advantage (towers mod was a neccessity). And because race for fairness in this case has no finish line.

 

[CommandoBeta]

Cobras shoulndt be removed.. with cobras the nva completely controls the sky, without them it will be even easierfor nva..

 

[CYBER]

Cobras shoulndt be removed.. with cobras the nva completely controls the sky, without them it will be even easierfor nva..

that is somting new. i never seen nva controlle the air in flaming before.

 

[CommandoBeta]

Is there any information on when the mods will be put back on for this map?

 

[Ward]

IDK why you guys changed the towers. when they could respawn Flaming dart was fun. now they dont respawn , and if u remove cobras nva will have total control over skies. (sorry Tankboy) but but i been playin this game since u were probly 6 yrs old ) and nva usual dominates the air, mig 17 and 21 out manuver any jet usa has to offer plus they get sa-7 and also get 2-3 ZSU's. another note: add slicks to fall of saigon

 

[CommandoBeta]

IDK why you guys changed the towers. when they could respawn Flaming dart was fun. now they dont respawn , and if u remove cobras nva will have total control over skies. (sorry Tankboy) but but i been playin this game since u were probly 6 yrs old ) and nva usual dominates the air, mig 17 and 21 out manuver any jet usa has to offer plus they get sa-7 and also get 2-3 ZSU's. another note: add slicks to fall of saigon

The slicks in Saigon is a great idea : D Ive also thought of that before!

 

[Max]

I like it the way it is now, Towers not respawning.
Why?
1. Its unique
2. Its not unfair. Why? because all an usa pilot has to do is trying to maintain the sky above mig-17 spawn, take 1 mig-17 plane and bomb their towers.
3. The mods make the server less stable, and we can't really play on unstable server

Hope this helps

 

[CommandoBeta]

I like it the way it is now, Towers not respawning.
Why?
1. Its unique
2. Its not unfair. Why? because all an usa pilot has to do is trying to maintain the sky above mig-17 spawn, take 1 mig-17 plane and bomb their towers.
3. The mods make the server less stable, and we can't really play on unstable server

Hope this helps

The unique part is when both teams towers are gone (except boat tower). I love when that happends, then the US has to do landings with the boats and its a big infantry fight. However this barely happends, and in 4/5 it ends in US getting raped on their little Tango.

 

[Cpt. Giggles]

So ward you have been playing this game for 11 years? Thats impressive. Did you invent it? Man I cant get over how amazing that is.

 

[N00BASAURUS REX]

I like it the way it is now, Towers not respawning.
Why?
1. Its unique
2. Its not unfair. Why? because all an usa pilot has to do is trying to maintain the sky above mig-17 spawn, take 1 mig-17 plane and bomb their towers.
3. The mods make the server less stable, and we can't really play on unstable server

Hope this helps

Can you imagine people working together on FD. USA planes are nothing compared to NVA. PPl dont work together, its more of a individual game. A mig is worth about two a-7s and are superior to f4s. Keep banking and u never die in a mig. 2 much turning ability. From what ive seen USA dominating happens only in rare occasions, Almost everyone that jumps in a mig17 go 2 bomb tower and their bombs r so good. At least make the a-7 bombs do triple the damage. Its unfair by a quite large ratio, and who wants a mig when you got a f-4 and poor ping.

 

[MaximumD2]

It is really fun without towers. We had it that way one game and usa had the island and nva had the rest.. Nva tried crossing the bridge with tanks and stuff and i had c4 on it and blew it. Ill be happy if it goes that way again

 

[ArcticWinter]

Lol, yes it is great to learn how to play against planes and helicopters, iv'e learned a lot in this map, example how to avoid jet bombs by using the geographical terrain to my advantage. But it is still annoying for US/GI that we don't have any air vehicles. It's becuase NVA got the Mig-17. A pro bomber can take out a US/GI tower in 3 clips! US got the corsair trough, but (again) the pilot flying it don't have enough brain to figure out that he got to bomb NVA towers instead of using it in airwar!

 

[Soldier]

the problem is on this map, that they are no planes or huey for NVA
in the FG Clan (1.0 Server) there was two mig 17 planes for the nva, and an airbase in the middle of the ocean which included 1 huey, 1 mi 8 and a mig 21 (but it is not needed mig 21)
so usa win almost every time on this map, cuz they have only the planes and the jets

 

[MurdertoDeath]

US has so many ways to prevail on Flaming Dart. Most of the players just don't wanna do that.
They just wanna fly with their F4 and drop some napalm.

Here is what you can do when you're US:

- Take the Corsair and bomb VC towers
- Take C4 and blow up VC towers
- Take AA and shoot the MIGs and MI8s down
- Take a Cobra and shoot the MIGs and MI8s down
- Take an F4 and shoot the MIGs and MI8s down
- Take the Chinook and shoot the MIGs and MI8s down
- Take the spawn boat and find a good position to hide

... and last but not least ...

- Leave all vehicles alone and capture some fu***** flags!!! (that is my favorite)

P.S: Respawning towers are a real pain in the ass! Really! There is no fun, if you can't dominate your enemy!

 

[Guest]

My two cents to solve all the problems with Flaming Dart:

Use custom combat and sub-out the tango for a PBR. The only thing that makes this map annoying to play is that it goes on too long after the US towers have been destroyed. There's no sense in making the towers respawn, that will just make the map take forever to play because people are just gonna do the same thing with the cobras and F4s that they do now except do it for as long as they possibly can.

As for US strategies: Murder2death is right. The US also has the chinook for transport, and the NVA rarely guards their towers very well. A team with mortars and c4 would make quick work of the NVA towers.

 

[CommandoBeta]

As for US strategies: Murder2death is right. The US also has the chinook for transport, and the NVA rarely guards their towers very well. A team with mortars and c4 would make quick work of the NVA towers.

Not really. I have seen maps in wich US towers were destroyed after 5 minutes. By then any engineer that comes near the tower gets shot by an mi8..

 

[Soldier]

thats one of the reason why i do not play almost anymore on Hello Server
the flaming dart tower for example destorys always fast,then the game is done
there is no other solution, you need to make the respawn, i know that makes not fun so much, but destrying would make the fun faster destroyed

 

[ArcticWinter]

USA need to let the good pilots fly... then they win the tower war..

 

[Guest]

Not really. I have seen maps in wich US towers were destroyed after 5 minutes. By then any engineer that comes near the tower gets shot by an mi8..

Not sure what you're talking about, I never suggested that repairing the towers was a good strategy. I said the US can load up the chinook with c4 and/or mortars and destroy the NVA towers in kind. I've seen them destroyed a lot faster than 5 mins, if both MiG 17s have good pilots it can be accomplished very quickly.

 

[Guest]

thats one of the reason why i do not play almost anymore on Hello Server
the flaming dart tower for example destorys always fast,then the game is done
there is no other solution, you need to make the respawn, i know that makes not fun so much, but destrying would make the fun faster destroyed

Sad thing is its not done, it goes on and on and on bc no one on the NVA wants to get out of their planes/choppers and hold the flags. Its fun to fly all the planes and choppers on flamming dart, but its no fun playing a painfully slow map where everyone wants to try and dogfight instead of win. I like flamming dart, but I don't wanna play that map all night.