[Poll] Running the server on a schedule (with less maps during the week & all maps on weekends)

[IceSkater]

Good evening BFV community,

So I know this kinda goes against our "allmaps" policy, however I think it might be better for us to keep the more popular maps in rotation when it's less busy so as to keep players engaged.

With this in mind, I propose trying out the scheduling option we have. Now, it is quite precise, so I can change it up however we like.

For now, I propose the following:

Weekday schedule:

Effective from Monday @ 08:00

Map voting enabled.

Map's in rotation;
Operation Hastings
Reclaming Hue
Siege of Khe Sahn
Quang Tri
Operation Game Warden
Ho Chi Minh Trail
Lang Vei
Operation Flaming Dart
Saigon 68
Operation Irving

Saigon 68 tunnels only map - Pipiska's suggestion (may be added later on)



Weekend schedule:

Effective from Friday @ 08:00

Map voting enabled.

Map's in rotation: AllMaps

Operation Hastings
Hue
Saigon 1968
Ho Chi Minh Trail
Operation Flaming Dart
Reclaiming Hue
Siege of Khe Sahn
Landing Zone Albany
La Drang Valley
Quang Tri 1968
Operation Game Warden
Operation Irving
Operation Cedar Falls
Cambodian Incursion
Lang Vei
Fall of Saigon
Quang Tri 1972
Defense of Con Thien

The server will automatically stop before a schedule change, however it happens quick enough that if you are in-game, you won't be kicked and it will delay stopping it if a game is in progress.

I already have the schedules created, and if there is no strong opposition to this idea I'd like to try it starting with the weekday schedule from next week Monday (29th March @ 08:00). This is a work in progress, and we can add and remove maps during the week day schedule. I want to get this approved first, before I add in the map that @Pipiska Cheburator made ( mentioned in detail here https://forum.helloclan.eu/threads/9381/ ) to the rotation.



Please let me know what you think of this idea.



Regards,
Ice

 

[HeiligWahrheit]

I think this is a good idea!
If I understand you right, there is no change in the weekend? We play all maps? It's little bit confusing, because I'm missing Fall of Lang Vei in your Weekend-Rotation...

 

[IceSkater]

I think this is a good idea!
If I understand you right, there is no change in the weekend? We play all maps? It's little bit confusing, because I'm missing Fall of Lang Vei in your Weekend-Rotation...

No changes no.

Sorry, I typed a bit too quick, I'll fix it - it should have been there.

 

[hard_rice]

I say give it a try we can always change it back if it does not work out.

 

[Vmax]

I voted 'Yes, but with some changes (please state them in a response)'

Flaming Dart needs to be in that rotation and I would personally prefer Irving over the tunnel m79 map but understand that others love the tunnels.

 

[LTShaun]

I voted no. I say leave all maps but add Saigon tunnels as well for a trial run. If the votes are in favour of this change then I think we should turn map vote off during the week with the smaller map rotation. I can see players choosing Hastings 24/7...

 

[HoloDuke]

I voted yes. I think it is a great idea and an easy one to try where we can alter the maplist to test out which limited rotation works best. I think the regular daily players should have the most say and input, however.

Perhaps while we are finetuning weekly maps, admins can adjust maps (i.e. manually switch to a map not change the map rotation) based on the player's preferences at different times to help us settle on the best list?

 

[x4|Al Gore]

I voted NO because if this change gets approved then most of my favorite maps like Fall of Saigon, Con Thien, Cedar Falls, La Drang Valley, Lang Vie, Irving, etc., won't be running anymore for 5 days of the week. So I will become a weekends-only-warrior like most others. See you all on weekends.

 

[IceSkater]

I voted 'Yes, but with some changes (please state them in a response)'

Flaming Dart needs to be in that rotation and I would personally prefer Irving over the tunnel m79 map but understand that others love the tunnels.

Flaming Dart has been added. Pipiska's map may only come in later on. I just want to try this whole scheduling thing out first if it's approved by the community.

I voted no. I say leave all maps but add Saigon tunnels as well for a trial run. If the votes are in favour of this change then I think we should turn map vote off during the week with the smaller map rotation. I can see players choosing Hastings 24/7...

This is just to try and stop players leaving in fast amounts when really large maps come on and there's already few online. I agree with leaving map voting turned off if we run a lesser map schedule.

I want option - NO but with some changes (please state them in a response)

But i vote yes - Yes, but with some changes (please state them in a response) and i agree with LTShaun and Vmax about flaming dart

well actually this nice idea but it not means that we dont play other maps, we just start play with hastings and then other one by one maps with sometime back on hastings again and thets why we need left voting ON. Because most of the players leave when there no hastings voting. And sometimes i see how people start play with other maps like irving , fall of saigon and Defense of Con Thien (thats why i want - no with some changes option) And about Hue - change it please on Reclaiming Hue cuz it more interactive and meat that just Hue.

P.S. Thats why i create tunnels only map for saigon and if all this will be succesful we can replace then Quang Tri or Ho Chi Minh Trail on Operation Cedar Falls tunnels only (i will create it if need)

Please note that I just want to get past the approval of this idea first, before implementing any special maps. The map voting is a very touchy subject, and I honestly want to try and ween us all off of it. It's really becoming annoying, so I want to remove the need for it at all. But, this is just one idea. See where it goes.

I voted yes. I think it is a great idea and an easy one to try where we can alter the maplist to test out which limited rotation works best. I think the regular daily players should have the most say and input, however.

Perhaps while we are finetuning weekly maps, admins can adjust maps (i.e. manually switch to a map not change the map rotation) based on the player's preferences at different times to help us settle on the best list?

As far as scheduling is concerned, it needs to be done my end unfortunately. Admins can modify the rotation at will but in order for it to work with the schedule I must add it in server side.

I voted NO because if this change gets approved then my favorite maps like Fall of Saigon, Con Thien, Cedar Falls, etc., won't be running anymore for 5 days of the week. So I will become a weekends-only-warrior like most others. See you all on weekends.

Al, I can understand your frustration. I am just trying to do something (that doesn't involve entire mods) to keep players engaged during the week days. This comes in the form of removing the larger maps which peters out the players if there aren't enough.

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Broadly speaking here,

I cannot keep everyone happy, and this is what switched me off in the first place. Trying to do stuff that I simply couldn't do because there was so much resistance, then being told repeatedly that I did nothing and that nothing changes. I am trying to come up with ways of keeping players, without using overly modified maps, without dropping all the maps completely. At least not yet.

This is just a suggestion, it's my suggestion, it doesn't mean it's right or wrong. It's merely an idea that we can try. If we don't like it, we toss it out and try something else.

The other thing we can try is this:

Lump all the "unpopular & large" maps at the end of the rotation, keep all the popular maps in the front and keep map voting enabled. We can do this with a schedule and rotate it as I've suggested between weekdays (lumped maplist) and weekends (normal current rotation) with a schedule, or we can try the lumped rotation universally.

Or, we can set it so that each round is played twice, and have the server forcibly switch people to the opposite team at the end of each round. But this does not solve our entire problem...but this does mean each team get's to play both sides of the map before moving on to the next map in rotation.



Just a side note here - just because I said I have the schedule loaded in already, it doesn't mean I'm going through with it and overriding everyone's input. I just like being organized and I generally plan in advance, even if it doesn't end up being needed.



Regards,
Ice

 

[mRoRange]

Im a yes, might work and why not try it !

 

[Teodor]

I like the idea to try this rotation but I prefer also operation Irving instead of tunnel saigon like someone before me had mentioned.

 

[IceSkater]

You mean ingame vote or vote for special maps?

I just mean that, assuming this idea of scheduling is approved, give it a day or two to just see how well it works, then I will add in your custom map for trial.

Map voting itself is annoying, to many of us, so I would like to try and see if it's possible to remove the need for it at all.

Im a yes, might work and why not try it !

That's the spirit!

I like the idea to try this rotation but I prefer also operation Irving instead of tunnel saigon like someone before me had mentioned.

Let us see what happens - whether we implement this scheduling idea or not.



Regards,
Ice

 

[Killzone]

Map voting, annoying as it may be, gives players a chance to escape a less desirable map.

 

[IceSkater]

The votes all seem to be a yes thus far,

Including the votes I had in the Discord server for BFV.

We are going to give this schedule a shot, I will add an in-game announcement with a quick link to this topic. I have added operation Iriving to the rotation, for now we will try this with map voting off.

Please see my initial post for the map rotation.

If all goes according to plan, the server will switch to the weekday schedule from 8am Monday morning. We will trial this for a week or two and monitor player numbers.



Regards,
Ice

 

[Vmax]

Early feedback.

Not being able to vote off some maps is annoying and saw 1 team not try on jungle map so it finished early.

I think I would rather have all maps with mapvote turned on.

 

[x4|Al Gore]

Why is Saigon-1968 removed? This map is not big and quite busy even on weekdays. Please restore it. Thanks!

 

[htn]

Why is Saigon-1968 removed? This map is not big and quite busy even on weekdays. Please restore it. Thanks!

Agree.

 

[LTShaun]

Saigon 1968 is my Favourite Map!

 

[IceSkater]

Amendments:​

Map voting has been enabled for weekday schedule.​

Saigon 68 has been re-added.​

 

[DaddyO]

I like the new rotation, makes for much faster game play. BUT, please restore voting so Vmax will be happier. (-;