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IMPORTANT! ONE STEP TOO FAR, Tedde its time to act.

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SgtSurfinByrd said:
But we should only do that after its officailly done. This hello clan so lying about that is not the way to go.

Byrd, I do agree with you that copyright registration should be filed with the US Copyright Office, but you clearly do not understand U.S. copyright law.

The way copyright law in the United States works is that once an "original work" is created by someone, it instantly becomes copyrighted by the person that created it. To quote the US Copyright office, "Copyright protection subsists from the time the work is created in fixed form. The copyright in the work of authorship immediately becomes the property of the author who created the work. Only the author or those deriving their rights through the author can rightfully claim copyright." That means that once someone makes something that is original, they legally own it. Under U.S. law, the HelloClan does not have file copyright documentation with respect to their website.

Furthermore, to justify the creation of an "original work", U.S. law suggests that the creator of an "original work" place a "©" with a year and a name associated with the creator of the work in order to protect their "work."

The purpose of filing for copyright registration with the US Copyright Office is that under legal proceedings, it provides proof that the owner of the copyright is in fact the true owner of the "original work" from the date that the U.S. copyright office received the correct documentation.

So then, back to your statement:

SgtSurfinByrd said:
This hello clan so lying about that is not the way to go.

There is no "lying" about placing a "Copyright © 2011 HelloClan" at the bottom of every page on this website simply because of the way U.S. law works: The HelloClan has created this website, it is an original website, and the HelloClan can claim authorship and ownership of the work created herein. The only purpose of documentation with the U.S. Copyright Office is if the HelloClan plans on creating a lawsuit against others, or to defend their "original work" that is created upon this website.
 

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One man cannot win the war by himself. It takes a whole army. Helloclan is the army to win this fight. We need to come together to figure out how to fix this. I say we start out with the copyright. Then work on the Trademark for the server. Donations. This may take a while, but wars are not won overnight. I dont know a whole lot about this legal crap but, Max is willing to help. fighting02 ak471 fighting00 ak471 against sniper00 See your advantage in my model?
 

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MaximumD2 said:
. fighting02 ak471 fighting00 ak471 against sniper00 See your advantage in my model?

I see that only the left guy will survive, because they all shoot their friends. Then the sniper can easily take him out ;)
By the way I think the question is if the fake server realy takes many people away from HELLO, and I noticed even more players play at HELLO then before.
 

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We dont even know for sure it actually is sebasjee, so byrds heady solutions to this is not an option we would ever consider.
 

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I have also noticed many new players on our server. People I have never seen before. And many are very consistant players. THey play every night. I think good has come from the situation. :)
 

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CommandoBeta said:
MaximumD2 said:
. fighting02 ak471 fighting00 ak471 against sniper00 See your advantage in my model?

I see that only the left guy will survive, because they all shoot their friends. Then the sniper can easily take him out ;)
By the way I think the question is if the fake server realy takes many people away from HELLO, and I noticed even more players play at HELLO then before.

i see that the sniper would shoot threw all their heads lol
 

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ZamZam said:
CommandoBeta said:
MaximumD2 said:
. fighting02 ak471 fighting00 ak471 against sniper00 See your advantage in my model?

I see that only the left guy will survive, because they all shoot their friends. Then the sniper can easily take him out ;)
By the way I think the question is if the fake server realy takes many people away from HELLO, and I noticed even more players play at HELLO then before.

i see that the sniper would shoot threw all their heads lol

Hehe thats true, and yes Maximus, we see who has the advantage in your model ;)
 

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MaximumD2 said:
. fighting02 ak471 fighting00 ak471 against sniper00 See your advantage in my model?
Don't know why, but everytime I see this, I think "Terrorists win".
 
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Byrd WAS leaving, but just before he was going to leave he read this message:

Partywitvillans wrote
"Why can't we just be thankful that Byrds gone? Listen to Kurk."

Byrd will be honest and will let everyone know right now:
(The following might be a little harsh, but this is the only way byrd can say this and still get his point across.)
First off, today byrd has been very very much angered.
What Partywitvillains said, no offence to him, really pissed byrd off. And by really byrd means really really really really really. so much so that byrd was so angry at that hes going to stay for the time being, but only because he doesnt like it when people who say that win.
If byrd is correct, -[HELLO]- wasnt doing anything thing because of byrd. Byrd pushed so hard to drive home one point: Do something. Does it matter what action is taken, as long as its not nothing, to Byrd? Honestly no. But if -[HELLO}- is and continues to do this because of Byrd, so be it. Byrd will leave and you can be sure that he wont come back.
Byrd is angered for many reasons, and these reasons is why byrd types this message. As he said before because of partywitvillans comment, and because he feels like the -[HELLO]- clan has stabbed him in the back with a knife (Byrd left His bf1942 server allittle more than a year ago).
But as byrd said "for the time being". Byrd is on the fence about stying, because he is going to have to rebuild his trust with many of the -[HELLO]- clan members, if poissible, considering byrd has a very hard time building trust with people.
 

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SgtSurfinByrd said:
If byrd is correct, -[HELLO]- wasnt doing anything thing because of byrd.
Byrd is not correct, -[HELLO]-wasnt doing anything because we dont want to do something illeagal
No -[HELLO]-Members are angry at you, or wanted you to leave. Your statement of leaving was that we must do something about sebasjee or you wont stay. Considering we would do something about it, which we wouldnt. Then think if sebasjee is not involved?, We are not 100% certain that it actually is sebasjee, or anyone else. So tell me what your strategy what you would do if it was not sebasjee and it was to late? Be wise, never take action on assuming something. Were all happy your back :) , so dont get stuck with being mad.
 
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Byrds point was to do something. It didnt have to be something illeagal, byrd was hoping byrds sugggestions would push you to do something, but it in no way had to be illeagal.
 

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Byrd, I love you. You are a nice guy that means well for everyone, and youre willing to sacrifice yourself to help us. But I truly at this point think it is not worth it. We have many many new players and we have had I think like five or six new members this week. You are loved and nobody wants to see you gone. And even if there are some. Who cares. You are you. and they are not. So they have no right to judge or insult or anything. Just try and brush your shoulders off and move on. You rock dude.
 
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MaximumD2 said:
fighting02 ak471 fighting00 ak471 against sniper00 See your advantage in my model?

Maybe this is a better model- fighting02 ak471 fighting00 ak471 against
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<---see he is taunting us.

And byrd, no need to threaten to leave. As I've said before, this is a very expensive ruse for this person to run with limited success. About the only effect it is having is causing people to freak out over things that can't logically be done. So don't leave, because that is exactly what this fraud would want you to do.
So, please take this the right way: there is no reason to feel "stabbed in the back" or to lose trust in HELLO because no one has breached your trust. :)
 
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