An alternative to map voting...VOTE NOW

[TonyB]

Guys, since we are trying map voting, perhaps there is an alternative. It's an old subject but maybe a revisit would help fix the problem and we could get rid of map voting. Why not get rid of the least popular maps? Everybody gets a vote. The worst three maps are removed from the rotation?

Just a suggestion. Removing the bad maps may lead to removing map voting?

I tried to list all maps but the system limits the options. If you want to bag another map, say so. Thanks.

pinky

 

[TonyB]

Pinky you forgot a choise "none of the above"

Yea, the program allowed only so many poll options. I cannot go in and amend the poll or I will be banned in the forums.

Thanks for your comment though.

pinky

 

[RoBoDuCk]

well I do prefer we remove some maps, but I also appreciate the finality of your post. That is it, we will not be removing maps so maybe we can bury the issue for good. If anyone including myself wants the votekick or map removal so badly we will just have to start our own gig.

Newsflash, I won't be making my own server....too lazy

 

[El Alamein]

Perhaps a nice compromise could be moving all the big, unpopular "boring" maps (i.e. Fall of Saigon, Ia Drang Valley, Operation Cedar Falls, etc) to the end of the map rotation, so that way the only realistic way it'd ever get there is if we have a ton of players who run the server through the cycle organically. We still remain an "All Maps" server, but we don't have to worry that 4 maps in, Cedar Falls will pop up and drive people away. Just a thought.

~The Deadliest Warrior

 

[El Alamein]

Also, why the dickens is Hue 1968 being considered for removal? It is neither a big nor a boring map! Blasphemy!! Blasphemy I say!!!

~The Deadliest Warrior

 

[Rambo FlamingDart]

I agree with IceSkater !
One of the big characteristics of this server is that it goes through all maps. Slightly modifications like Zippo/Tower- respawn etc are fine. However, I'm against changes that alters the server gameplay completely. Most people (including me) prefer to be able to play every map they remember back from the old bfv days. I think the issue with "boring maps" is less due to the map itself but rather to the few player number. E.g "Fall of Saigon" can really be fun with >= 10 vs 10

I would support the proposition The Deadliest Warrior made, but I wouldn't classify the maps if they are boring (this is very subjective) but rather over their size. Big maps that require a certain amount of people should remain at the end of the map rotation list. Another possibility would be to add some flag points. (see my suggestions for Operation Cedar Falls to improve gameplay )
However this would just be "fine tuning". Since we got map vote back everybody can ask for a change if they don't like a single map

 

[Capt. Canada]

Pinky, let's not be so judgmental.

There are no bad maps. They are just misunderstood. Bad players, yes, lots of those.

Actually, I see what you're doing here, you clever devil :evil: . You create a list where you toss in the three maps you want eliminated and then sprinkle it with maps that you know will not receive votes to eliminate. It's like picking the ugliest actress given choices of Jennifer Lopez, Natalie Portman, Mila Kunis, Gal Gadot, and Rosie O'Donell (sorry Robo).

I've got a suggestion for everyone to scoff at publicly yet privately say, "Hey, that's not a bad idea." Why not ask someone important like SK or Ice to see if they would consider resetting the flags to different locations? The maps will stay essentially the same, but players will have to change their battle tactics.

 

[TonyB]

Perhaps a nice compromise could be moving all the big, unpopular "boring" maps (i.e. Fall of Saigon, Ia Drang Valley, Operation Cedar Falls, etc) to the end of the map rotation, so that way the only realistic way it'd ever get there is if we have a ton of players who run the server through the cycle organically. We still remain an "All Maps" server, but we don't have to worry that 4 maps in, Cedar Falls will pop up and drive people away. Just a thought.

~The Deadliest Warrior

That is a great idea. Move the bad maps to the end of the rotation then when we get there, I can go do my laundry, run get groceries, visit Julie. I would have time to do all three at the rate La Drang plays.

End of map list order suggested by pinky. Put all the other maps above then put these bad maps at the end in an order like below.

Jungle Map Ho Chi Minh Trail Alt
La Drang
Fall of Saigon
Jungle Map Ho Chi Minh Trail
Operation Cedar Falls

Canada, you are a very wise, if not very old, bird. Notice I stress old and bird. Weak on the wise part! lol Who would put Hastings or Game Warden in the poll list? I mentioned earlier, the poll only allows so many options. But you are right. I want rid of the above maps and that's no secret.

Seriously, great ideas come from discussions without fear (being castigated) or favor (great idea pink). I know Shauny will never remove the bad maps and I'm certainly not interested in starting a server. But War's idea is indeed the next best thing.

As for Can's idea of moving the flags, that would take a major map revise and I suppose everybody would have to download the maps? You know that idea will hit the hist-can.

Great ideas men.

See you in battle,

pinky

 

[TonyB]

Also, why the dickens is Hue 1968 being considered for removal? It is neither a big nor a boring map! Blasphemy!! Blasphemy I say!!!

~The Deadliest Warrior

Because I knew that if I didn't list as many maps as the poll would allow options I would hear that I only wanted rid of the maps I dislike. La Drang, Fall of Saigon and Ho Chi Minh jungle maps.

I love the Hue maps.

pinky

 

[Rambo FlamingDart]

As for the flag points, this can be changed on server side, like adding additional vehicles. So nobody has to download new maps etc.

 

[Capt. Canada]

Canada, you are a very wise, if not very old, bird. Notice I stress old and bird. Weak on the wise part! lol Who would put Hastings or Game Warden in the poll list? I mentioned earlier, the poll only allows so many options. But you are right. I want rid of the above maps and that's no secret.

I'm constantly being referred to as old, occasionally wise, but this is the first time I recall being called a bird.

Obviously, you wouldn't include Hastings or Game Warden because then your poll would range far into the ridiculous, but tossing Hue and Quang Tri into the mix makes you seem truly objective. However, those are awesome maps that no genuine player would want to lose, so they are going to get fewer votes (except apparently for the one goober who voted for Quang Tri).

I have to concede that some maps can be tedious and boring, especially with fewer players.

I'll leave you guys with this final thought in regards to maps, as pinky always says, "It's not the size that matters. It's what you do with it that counts."

 

[TonyB]

I love a Canadian who has a sense of humor and historically, I have said, I don't love any Canadians. Then along comes Canada.

Shauny, what about rearranging the maps to put the losers at the end? If you would do that, that would be great.

pinky

 

[Capt. Canada]

Then along comes Canada.

Hmm, thinking this would be a great motto, maybe put it on t-shirts and bumper stickers. It's a lot better than my last one,

"I hate the itching but don't mind the swelling."

I still get weird looks on that one.

 

[peteware]

There is another way just put all the flight maps in a row followed by the ground maps that way the people will stay for a good few maps, as it is like Pinky knows when a shite map comes on the players fall off, so 6 flight maps would be about 1 hour or more of decent number of players
and yes pinky must Die

 

[Capt. Canada]

pinky must Die

Another great t-shirt idea!

 

[TonyB]

I would like to see more junglemaps. So double the amohnt of junglemaps

Please stop drinking and go take a nap.

We have two too many jungle maps now.

pinky