The Zippo

[Anonymous]

Byrd was wondering in maps like lZA, fall of saigon (zippo was in this map in beta version), Cedar falls if you could put a few Zippos in (in place of m113).
For those of you who dont know what the zippo is:
the Zippo is a variant of the m113 that in place of the mg is a flamethower turret, but only one perrson can be in it at a time.

Other Bata stuff:
In iadrang and lza, there was an underground tunnelssystem accessable through the only nva hut on the map.

Did u remove the m46 33253 m above sea level in lza?

 

[Anonymous]

Kurk please watch what u say. Byrd's way is MUCH simpler than yours, all it requires is going to bcv, opening the designated map with the spawn point, opening the opject spawn and changing m113 to zippo.

 

[Anonymous]

byrd can post more pics if u need more convincing

 

[Kurk]

Kurk please watch what u say. Byrd's way is MUCH simpler than yours, all it requires is going to bcv, opening the designated map with the spawn point, opening the opject spawn and changing m113 to zippo.

What ever you believe. If giving up a perfectly good spawner and vehicle for some crappy Zippo that not everyone wants makes you happy, then fine. My method only requires 10 extra minutes for finding the coordinates and adding the code into ObjectSpawns.con.

 

[Anonymous]

The zippo is SUPPOSED to be there... and how do you know its crappy if you havent used it (Rhetorihical), so dont ASS-U-ME. Its calle ZIPPOspawner for a reason. Your short of saying this: get rid of the helis because not EVERYONE wants it. It should be there. If were to mod it we would be restoring it to the original spawn. and it only one one map. Anyway how many people really use the m113 for something other than just quick use aand ditch transport. Byrd wants to say something else about rude your post kurk, but byrd wont because it is against the rules (which you might want to read up on).

 

[Kurk]

The zippo is SUPPOSED to be there... and how do you know its crappy if you havent used it (Rhetorihical), so dont ASS-U-ME. Its calle ZIPPOspawner for a reason. Your short of saying this: get rid of the helis because not EVERYONE wants it. It should be there. If were to mod it we would be restoring it to the original spawn. and it only one one map. Anyway how many people really use the m113 for something other than just quick use aand ditch transport. Byrd wants to say something else about rude your post kurk, but byrd wont because it is against the rules (which you might want to read up on).

Eh, what? I've never said any of that.

 

[Anonymous]

Dont give byrd that bs kurk. Anyway byrd will look to tedde or tankboy or, travaco, or cooper for a reply.

 

[Kurk]

Dont give byrd that bs kurk. Anyway byrd will look to tedde or tankboy or, travaco, or cooper for a reply.

Um no, I said not everyone wants the Zippo, so why get rid of the APCspawners APC's when you can just add a template for team 3 to it. Get off your high horses and actually translate my sentences correctly. Your analogy about the helicopters makes no sense as the helicopters are supposed to be there and weren't removed from the retail game. This is one of those things that a Programmer in any programming language would shy away from as it only benefits one group of people instead of many whilst they can add in a couple more minutes of work and make more groups happy, but you don't think like that, so you are laser-focused on getting your Zippo without any server modding skills.

 

[Anonymous]

"What ever you believe. If giving up a perfectly good spawner and vehicle for some crappy Zippo that not everyone wants makes you happy, then fine. My method only requires 10 extra minutes for finding the coordinates and adding the code into ObjectSpawns.con."
last time byrd checked, u never mentioned "APCspawner" anywhere in that paragraph. Changing the zippospawner to a zippo will not hurt any "group of poeple" considering thats only 1 more map with out an m113, and there' will still B plenty of maps w/ m113s in it. (THE FOLLOWING IS RHETORICAL) It won't hurt a to do less work considering it still gets the job done period."this will not work becous if you ad any thing to object template it will be come a douwnlode. if we gonne ad the zippo we going to go whit byrd way. but we still need to wait fore tedde."-tankboy. Byrd's point is to make so no download is nesecarry & every-1 can play it as long as they have the orginal map.

*Kurk, you not SPEAKING to byrd. It's the internet, so words will be recieved different ways due to the lack of tone and, in this case, the amount of time in between the posts. So DON NOT TELL BYRD (or anyone for that matter) TO RECIEVE WHAT YOU TYPE THE WAY YOU INTENDED IT TO BE RECIEVED.

(KURK) END OF ARGUMENT, PERIOD. Its time to get back to the topic instead of fighting.
IF YOU WANT TO REPLY TO THIS POST, KURK, DON'T. BYRD DOES NOT CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY TO HIM

 

[Kurk]

What ever you believe. If giving up a perfectly good spawner and vehicle for some crappy Zippo that not everyone wants makes you happy, then fine. My method only requires 10 extra minutes for finding the coordinates and adding the code into ObjectSpawns.con.

last time byrd checked, u never mentioned "APCspawner" anywhere in that paragraph.

Nice try.

Changing the zippospawner to a zippo will not hurt any "group of poeple" considering thats only 1 more map with out an m113, and there' will still B plenty of maps w/ m113s in it. (THE FOLLOWING IS RHETORICAL) It won't hurt a to do less work considering it still gets the job done period."this will not work becous if you ad any thing to object template it will be come a douwnlode. if we gonne ad the zippo we going to go whit byrd way. but we still need to wait fore tedde."-tankboy. Byrd's point is to make so no download is nesecarry & every-1 can play it as long as they have the orginal map.

First off, changing stuff in the ObjectTemplate.con does NOT make the mod a client side download. Whoever got the idea doesn't know how the RefractorEngine works. Most modding of vehicles is done in the ObjectTemplate.con. Oh, and, guess what? Changing the ZippoSpawner to spawn Zippos requires editing the ObjectTemplate.con.

kkthxbai

 

[Anonymous]

Kurk you crossed the line.

 

[GunRunner]

Byrd,

Nothing Kurk has said to you in this topic has been insulting.

From what I can tell, Kurk has gone out of his way to help you by showing and explaining to you the best way to modify the code to get a Zippo to spawn without causing issues; as well as he has tried to explain game theory and resource management to you as to why the map was programmed a certain way.

You are reading things in his posts that just aren't there.

Chill bro...

 

[ZamZam]

yeah.. everything that kurk said was to help you.. why do you take what he says the wrong way?

 

[Anonymous]

Okay, the way he typed certain things byrd found ininsulting. He was trying to help byrd... now thats going a little far(byrd is tired of explaining how whay and is tired of giving examples for now, and please dont ask for them.. unless you an admin.).
Now for god sakes.. stay on topic! Byrd would like to know ur poinions about the Zippo, or the admins desision about the zippo.

 

[Kurk]

Okay, the way he typed certain things byrd found ininsulting. He was trying to help byrd... now thats going a little far(byrd is tired of explaining how whay and is tired of giving examples for now, and please dont ask for them.. unless you an admin.).
Now for god sakes.. stay on topic! Byrd would like to know ur poinions about the Zippo, or the admins desision about the zippo.

So wait, you can derail the thread going on a rant how "Byrd's way is the bestest and only way to do Zippo tiem" yet they can't say you are over-reacting?

 

[ZamZam]

Zippos are probably the most pointless apc ever on bfv lol theirs my opinion.

 

[BigPinkPig]

yah zippo is noob xD its slow and no use for it, when you take it someone shoot you whit rpg/law.

 

[Anonymous]

The byrd has used the zippo, it can take a fex hits from the rpg:
Zippo Vs. M113
Zippo Better protected
M113 is longer ranged
Zippo's turret rotates 360 degrees
They both supply ammo
Both amphibous
Zippo has same, if not better durability, can take a few rpg hits like the m113.
If you kill zippo you better be prepared to run from the napalm fireball
Zippo can take out tanks and other vehicle that the m113 can't
Flamethrower's effect lasts a short while after fired.
m113 has troop carrying capability, but for some reason guys in seat 5 and 6 can be killed by a shot to the rear
Byrds point is the Zippo is not the best vehicle, but it is better than the m113. It is not in the game like every other vehicle, no matter how good every other vehicle is, should be. Some people would like to use it... and they would get the chance, those who like to use the m113, still have an abundance of maps to use it on. This is only putting the zippo on 1 map, not every one, just cedar falls, where the zippo should be.

 

[Anonymous]

And kurk, as tankboy said your way would make it so every player would have to download it to play it, byrd is getting the feeling thats what you want so the map would not be playable by most and every time would have only a few poeple on it. The point of byrds way is this to make it so no one has to down load the map to play it, therefore no one will be dissconnected from the server when the map loads.

 

[Kurk]

And kurk, as tankboy said your way would make it so every player would have to download it to play it, byrd is getting the feeling thats what you want so the map would not be playable by most and every time would have only a few poeple on it. The point of byrds way is this to make it so no one has to down load the map to play it, therefore no one will be dissconnected from the server when the map loads.

Stop spouting false information. What tankboy said was really, really stupid. This mod is 110% serverside.

Some people would like to use it...

Some people will like using it, but not all. When you program, you aim to make a bigger group happy than just "some".

 

[CYBER]

well u going to need to say that were not going to put any mod on the alle maps. i will make shure there there are some zippos in the event. thats alle.

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