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==Warning==
The longest post ever to be posted in HELLO coming.


Admin: Acashmoney, Alphascout, CommandoBeta, Bee, and this decision is also supported by other admins.

Evidence:

I will start off by admitting that we do not usually ban someone from Allmaps based on evidence that is not 100% from BFV. I will however explain later how this is a unique case, which requires unique measures.

Soldier has been involved in HELLOclan for some time now, and played in both the BFV as in the MC server. His period in the clan has been characterized by rule-breaking, sabotaging the clan, and a general disrespect of the rules. He has been banned several times from the Minecraft server, and he has had numerous issues in BFV as well. After action was
taken against him, he kept behaving badly. This has gotten to the point where we can no longer punish him for what he has done, and it has become an extremely time-consuming to keep him off the Minecraft server and to keep him from destroying it. I will start by explaining the situation in the Minecraft server.

Soldier first joined the Minecraft server on the 30th of October 2011, as can be seen here.

In the first 20 days, he seemed to get along just fine, until he suddenly started insulting many people, which led to people complaining about him on the forums, as can be seen in this topic (which also includes the evidence of the insults). This first complaint was not enough to stop the insulting, he kept doing it, which resulted in a second complaint about him.
In this topic, he started his habit of blaming others for his problems. He did however realise that, with his behaviour, he did not belong in this community, and posted that he would leave. This turned out to be a lie, however, since he simply kept playing on the server.

After the complaints about his insults, he decided to take his rule-breaking up a notch, and started massively duping stuff (illegal on the server). This resulted in him being banned from the server. This made it pretty obvious that he does not follow rules. This was the third time someone posted on the forum about his behaviour.
However, it was at this point that a mistake was made in the BFV administration, Soldier was made admin. I will discuss that part later.

Notice how this ban took place on the 12th of february. Because on the 14th, a 'new player', Granate, posted an application to join the server. Of course this was Soldier, something we didn't realise at the moment. The application was accepted, and so, while he was supposed to be banned, Soldier joined the server. Something many people would consider a big deal. But he didn't just join, he also decided to start destroying things which other people had built; he burnt down CommandoBeta's and MaximumD2's building.
Maggie was banned on the 16h of February, and so this was Soldiers second ban (although he was supposed to be banned anyway!). Travco proved that it was indeed Jetfighter later in one of his posts.

His two Minecraft friends, Prevoo and Darkprins, were also banned at the time, and they used the same system as him, to get on the server again. Soldier was aware of the fact that Prevoo was ilegally joining the server again, which can be seen in Travco's posts in this topic. This adds aiding a banned person to ilegally get back on the server to the list of his offenses.
Soldier decided to blame the management for the fact that he duped those materials and for the fact that he got onto the server again and destroyed people´s property. It was at this early moment that Travco made the wise statement that maybe Soldier should be banned from all HELLO servers.
After this he remained on the banlist, until the server was restarted, and everyone got a fresh start. This was in april. Even though his behaviour in the past made it unlikely that he would follow the rules this time, the management decided to give him one last chance. He started breaking rules again, however, he for instance broke the peaceful-rule, in May, , and started exploiting bugs in the plugins again, in September.

Finally, on the 16th of september, he got banned again, again for breaking rules. His 3rd ban from the server. It was after this ban that his behaviour got even worse, and he got on the server AGAIN (again, while he was supposed to be banned). He used an exploit of a plugin, to blow up a massive part of the servermap. This time, he used an account called 'bossmanswag'. Using the logs, we can trace the movement of a player. As soon as he logged on, he moved right to the place that he wished to greif (CommandoBeta's town) , and used the exploit to cause massive damange. This is not the only evidence of the fact that it was him, he also later admitted it himself.

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[21] Soldier: you noob, you told them i would be "bossmanswag".
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: no actually i didnt
[21] Soldier: but anyway, it is just funny how people goes far and rats them out just to get a simple admin ship..
[21] Soldier: you was surely involved in this
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: dude i didnt rat u out
[21] Soldier: they didnt have a fucking clue..
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: someone else did it and im not going to discuss it
[21] Soldier: maximum, pink, ...
[21] Soldier: i have told it a few people, but well, time to lag the server finally
[21] Soldier: with my 3rd account
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: have fun....
[21] Soldier: nah, not now, and not in the next weeks (dont have the mood), i will do it when it is the right time..
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: seems reasonable
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: u accuse me of ratting you out
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: then tell me what ur plans are next
[21] Soldier: i dont know, i mean you was talking bad about me to them
[21] Soldier: well, you can tell them, because they didnt give me the chance to unban me and give my stuff to zeer0ver
[21] Soldier: <This user is now offline>
[21] Soldier: <This user is now online>
[21] Soldier: <This user is now offline>
Conversation ended: Tue, Oct  30 21:57:42 2012


His actions on the account 'bossmansswag' resulted in the banning of that account. That was his 4th ban from the server.

This brings the list of his offenses on the Minecraft server to:

-insulting
-exploiting plugins to create huge stockpiles of recourses
-exploiting plugins to create damange to the servermap
-using a human error to create huge amounts of money
-breaking the peaceful rule
-illegal destruction of property
-returning to the server while being banned
-helping banned people get into the server
-attempted lagging of the server.

Please note that since he is already banned, there is no way we can punish him for anything he does to the server now. At least not in MC. However, Soldier plays BFV as well.
An example has to be set, to show that this behaviour does not go unpunished.

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As you can see from these logs, his rule-breaking is not only in MC, he has also done the same thing in BFV, as these (unforunately old) logs will show:

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21-4-2011 21:09:05 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: noob tube
21-4-2011 21:26:31 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: noobish
22-4-2011 19:12:30 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier : noob
22-4-2011 19:12:35 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier : m79 noobs
22-4-2011 19:12:38 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier : noobs everythere
22-4-2011 19:12:45 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier : full server of noobs
22-4-2011 22:03:13 : # [BLUE] -[HELLO]-Soldier : NOOB BETA
22-4-2011 22:17:08 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier : was today the fucking noob which kills team player?

26-4-2011 21:29:19 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: noob
26-4-2011 21:34:28 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: fuck
26-4-2011 21:34:28 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: really noobish

29-4-2011 17:06:00 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: raper noobs

30-4-2011 13:22:29 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier : jebote
30-4-2011 13:22:34 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier : idiot

6-5-2011 18:43:35 : # [BLUE] -[HELLO]-Soldier : raper noobs
6-5-2011 18:43:42 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier : damn raper

9-5-2011 17:46:44 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: you have no chance against you noobs here
9-5-2011 17:47:05 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: i do not want to play seriously
9-5-2011 17:47:27 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: cuz you are a noob
9-5-2011 17:53:28 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: shit map
9-5-2011 17:53:36 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: it does not make fun this map
9-5-2011 17:53:41 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: only noobs
48 : # [Global] =H|h= Toxic ft. [AK-47]: LIKE U
9-5-2011 17:54:07 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier: nothing you asshole
-5-2011 17:54:10 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier: only shut your mouth
9-5-2011 17:54:19 : # [Global] [TE]-CommandoBeta: Soldier please watch your language
9-5-2011 17:54:21 : # [Global] =H|h= Toxic ft. [AK-47]: dont call names
9-5-2011 17:55:03 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier: you should be nice to others toow
9-5-2011 17:55:09 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier: do not start to insult
-5-2011 17:55:23 : # [Global] =H|h= Toxic ft. [AK-47]: u started insulting ppl
9-5-2011 17:55:26 : # [Global] =H|h= Toxic ft. [AK-47]: so stfu
9-5-2011 17:55:31 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier: not really
9-5-2011 17:55:36 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier: yourself
9-5-2011 17:55:39 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier: lol
9-5-2011 17:55:47 : # [Global] =H|h= Toxic ft. [AK-47]: shut it kid
9-5-2011 17:55:52 : # [Global] Itchy Beef: omg
9-5-2011 17:56:00 : Client: Said 'Both of you stop it please'.
9-5-2011 17:56:04 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier: hmmh, if you talk so with me, i will not stop

13-5-2011 22:06:20 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: cuz they are many noobs here

15-5-2011 19:52:49 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: learn to play
15-5-2011 19:53:04 : # [Global] MTLKEBEK: stfu cry baby
15-5-2011 19:53:16 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: last warning or kick
15-5-2011 19:54:00 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: hmm,noob, i am not french
15-5-2011 19:54:32 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: kick

18-5-2011 16:27:47 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier: the noob try to destroy it
18-5-2011 16:27:47 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier: noobs
18-5-2011 16:29:10 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: F4 noobs
18-5-2011 16:29:21 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: fuck
18-5-2011 16:29:26 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: jebote
18-5-2011 16:33:05 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier: the noobs destroyed tower

21-5-2011 13:35:57 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier: asshole

1-7-2011 15:56:22 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: F4 noob
1-7-2011 16:06:23 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: F4 noob

3-7-2011 15:29:23 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: raper noob
3-7-2011 15:37:03 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: fuck F4
3-7-2011 15:52:49 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: non skiilled players
3-7-2011 16:05:38 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: paypack, cuz much noobs use it
6-7-2011 13:50:47 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: damn they destroyer our tower
6-7-2011 13:50:55 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: but these noobs do not listen
6-7-2011 14:02:54 : # [Global] «ßÔß»- Rastifar: BAstard
6-7-2011 14:03:03 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: watch your language pls

6-7-2011 14:04:03 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: offend eachother is not allow
6-7-2011 14:04:06 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: i know them
6-7-2011 14:04:26 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: lol
6-7-2011 14:05:19 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: i mean with it he should not use bad words
6-7-2011 14:12:47 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: raper
6-7-2011 14:12:50 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: rong is a noob
6-7-2011 14:50:29 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: do you have low skill or what?
6-7-2011 14:55:05 : # [BLUE] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: fucking noob got me
6-7-2011 14:55:07 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: fuck rong
6-7-2011 15:12:32 : # [BLUE] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: kill this noob
6-7-2011 15:26:48 : # [BLUE] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: a little fucking noob

8-7-2011 14:02:00 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: lol, cuz i owned you general noob
8-7-2011 14:34:12 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: fucking assholes
23-7-2011 17:02:37 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: i hate them, i do not know why
23-7-2011 17:02:40 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: they are just noobs

2-8-2011 21:37:31 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: fuck noob tuber
2-8-2011 21:45:00 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: kenar is a noob
2-8-2011 21:45:08 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: just use noob tube
2-8-2011 21:45:10 : # [RED] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: he can not do more

3-8-2011 13:25:19 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: aplayer you noob
3-8-2011 13:31:35 : # [BLUE] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: fucking noob lies

5-8-2011 21:35:45 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: i am killing noobs like you without problems ;)
5-8-2011 21:37:50 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: suck my long dig
5-8-2011 21:38:14 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: do not provocate me
5-8-2011 21:38:32 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: you noob
5-8-2011 21:39:14 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: shut up
5-8-2011 21:39:29 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: max shut up
5-8-2011 21:41:01 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: huey noobs
5-8-2011 21:41:05 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: always gunner
5-8-2011 22:20:11 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: noob
5-8-2011 22:22:37 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: TOO MUCH RPG NOOBS

11-7-2011 21:13:31 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: fuck you dahram
11-7-2011 21:27:24 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: lol
11-7-2011 21:27:29 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: no one you noob

17-7-2011 14:19:47 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: so much RPG 7 V noobs
17-7-2011 14:20:59 : # [Global] Loaded Avenger: sas, why did you reset your score? :)
17-7-2011 14:21:10 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: cuz he sucked
17-7-2011 14:21:15 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: oh, you already said it
17-7-2011 14:27:58 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: damn rpg noobs
17-7-2011 14:28:23 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: fuck oyu
17-7-2011 22:07:03 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: no i am not you noob

18-7-2011 14:19:14 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: noob
18-7-2011 14:22:55 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: better than the noob tube weapon
18-7-2011 14:23:33 : # [Global] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: too much rpg noobs
18-7-2011 18:54:05 : # [BLUE] -[HELLO]-Soldier [S-T]: probably a german noob
As well as these newer logs:

Code:
15-11-2012 21:57:32 : # [Global] Frenkie: serbia is a shit country
15-11-2012 21:57:52 : # [Global] Frenkie: because i am bosnian
15-11-2012 21:57:53 : # [Global] serbia: ur mom is shit
15-11-2012 21:57:53 : # [Global] Frenkie: and they are responsible for the war
15-11-2012 21:58:00 : # [Global] serbia: u stertd the war
15-11-2012 21:58:05 : # [Global] serbia: we finnieshed
15-11-2012 21:58:19 : # [Global] Frenkie: cetnik..
15-11-2012 21:58:25 : Client: Said 'Soldier no hating on Serbians please.'.
15-11-2012 21:58:26 : Server: Admin message sent.
15-11-2012 21:58:32 : # [Global] serbia: u r majority balija
15-11-2012 21:59:02 : # [Global] Frenkie: pusi moj kurac ( Google this, it means something like 'suck my dick'
15-11-2012 21:59:06 : # [Global] serbia: mama ti cetnik pickice
15-11-2012 21:59:24 : # [Global] Frenkie: cerajo
15-11-2012 21:59:24 : Client: Said '[BVSM] Frenkie kicked for ignoring admin requests'.
15-11-2012 21:59:24 : Client: Kick player Frenkie.
15-11-2012 21:59:24 : Server: Admin message sent.
15-11-2012 21:59:24 : Server: Player Frenkie kicked.

Code:
11/18/2012 15:26:48 : # [Global] Free Palestine: terroristic? haha..
11/18/2012 15:26:53 : # [Global] Free Palestine: the jews are the terrorist
11/18/2012 15:26:59 : # [Global] Free Palestine: bombing innocent people
11/18/2012 15:27:00 : # [Global] Free Palestine: and children
11/18/2012 15:27:13 : # [Global] Free Palestine: daily innocent children and women die
11/18/2012 15:27:13 : # [Global] Free Palestine: and man
11/18/2012 15:25:24 : # [Global] Free Palestine: hitler should have killed them
11/18/2012 15:24:12 : # [Global] Free Palestine: fuck yourself
11/18/2012 15:26:48 : # [Global] Free Palestine: terroristic? haha..
11/18/2012 15:26:53 : # [Global] Free Palestine: the jews are the terrorist
11/18/2012 15:26:59 : # [Global] Free Palestine: bombing innocent people
11/18/2012 15:27:00 : # [Global] Free Palestine: and children
11/18/2012 15:27:13 : # [Global] Free Palestine: daily innocent children and women die
11/18/2012 15:27:13 : # [Global] Free Palestine: and man
11/18/2012 15:25:24 : # [Global] Free Palestine: hitler should have killed them
11/18/2012 15:24:12 : # [Global] Free Palestine: fuck yourself


Like I said before, after his first Minecraft ban, a mistake was made by the HelloClan administration. Soldier was made admin in Battlefield Vietnam. Not only did he insult people ( telling them they are 'bitching') through the RM;

19.04.2012 14:37:44 : Client: Said 'Quite your bitching, or server ban!'.
19.04.2012 14:37:45 : Server: Admin message sent.

http://forum.helloclan.eu/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=2374

But he also banned someone for critisizing him, for which his admin rights were removed.


However, in this topic, ironically, he makes a point which is relevant in more recent issues;

`As you can see, he lost his respect to me as an administrator, which gives everything to keep the server in a good atmosphere.`

15-11-2012 22:51:02 : # [Global] Zelene Beretke (BiH): little beta is gone

Seems hardly respectful to an admin.

His behaviour on the forum is the same, calling people 'pissy admins', saying people don't have a life, saying that people are brain-damanged.


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Code:
[21] Soldier: you noob, you told them i would be "bossmanswag".
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: no actually i didnt
[21] Soldier: but anyway, it is just funny how people goes far and rats them out just to get a simple admin ship..
[21] Soldier: you was surely involved in this
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: dude i didnt rat u out
[21] Soldier: they didnt have a fucking clue..
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: someone else did it and im not going to discuss it
[21] Soldier: maximum, pink, ...
[21] Soldier: i have told it a few people, but well, time to lag the server finally
[21] Soldier: with my 3rd account
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: have fun....
[21] Soldier: nah, not now, and not in the next weeks (dont have the mood), i will do it when it is the right time..
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: seems reasonable
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: u accuse me of ratting you out
[21] -[HELLO]- Bee [M-2Ldr]: then tell me what ur plans are next
[21] Soldier: i dont know, i mean you was talking bad about me to them
[21] Soldier: well, you can tell them, because they didnt give me the chance to unban me and give my stuff to zeer0ver
[21] Soldier: <This user is now offline>
[21] Soldier: <This user is now online>
[21] Soldier: <This user is now offline>
Conversation ended: Tue, Oct  30 21:57:42 2012

Moving back to the logs of the conversation between Bee and Soldier however, Soldier is not planning on stopping his stalking of the clan. Although he has often stated that he wants to have nothing to do with this clan, he keeps coming back for more. We can conclude that he is a danger to this clan, and should be denied access.
Now, as we see, his rule-breaking and his constant attacks on HELLO are not just in Minecraft. And even though most of them were in Minecraft, we should put that in perspective. The Minecraft administration consists of Freshblood032, Max, Travco, Bee, CommandoBeta, Hippo, and Tedde. All these people he was trying to attack. And now let's look at the BFV admin list.
Those are Lost, Alphascout, Acashmoney, CommandoBeta, Freshblood, Deadly_Hippo, Max, Bee, RyanCooper, Travco, Tankboy, SAS, HELLO, and 73 easting. 50% of the BFV admins are also the people who Soldier is trying to attack. And I dare say that 90% of the MC people also play BFV. Those are the same people. You cannot consider BFV and MC as two completely different things. Travco and SAS spent so much time getting the MC server right, and Soldier is trying to lag and break it.
If Soldier were to hack our computers, we would ban him from BFV as well. That is the comparison we should make.


And that is why, for the sake of the community, we have decided on banning Soldier from [HELLO]-BFV | Allmaps.

Soldier has also done several things of which the evidence was unfortunately lost during the reinstallation of windows on my computer. He told people to crash Allmaps. After I found out he did that, I inmediately contacted Tedde, who said we should wait and see what he would do. We later discussed the matter in a chatroom, and in the MC server. If necessary, I hope Tedde will be able to find back the logs of that in his xfire.
He has also shown his true self on the forums, posting what he could do to this clan and to it's server, he however quickly edited that post. I am sure Tedde can also see that in the website's logs.
 

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this has been long discussed and very heated but it was discussed calmly

and a decision was made...

this will be locked shortly
 

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I agree. The evidence can't be denied and speaks for itself.
 

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Alright ladies and gentlemen, where to start..
As always, I don't really like getting involved in all the drama and problems between people here, but this time I really feel the need to voice myself.

First off let me tell you that I'm really dissapointed about the rule-breaking soldier has shown on the minecraft server. I dissagree with the his way of dealing with the situation on mc. This shouldn't go unpunnished, a perm-ban is justified in my opinion.

HOWEVER, the way you guys are dealing with the situation on bfv is far from pretty. I have read soldiers player complaint and I realised that he is correct on quite some levels. First off, the part where Beta would have a grudge against soldier. I know both people for quite some time now and I would lie if I said I couldn't get along with either one of them. But the fact that there is a (slight?) hate between those two is a given fact. Not only did this show in form of the actions both players took against eachother on minecraft, but also the way they talked to oneanother.
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This picture is an example, that shows Beta has indeed a grudge against soldier. This wooden wall can be found in one of Beta's buildings in minecraft. Search for the word "Mof". Mof is a pretty serious insult against germans here in the Netherlands. Mof refers, in this case, to soldier. The fact that you would actually take time and write this down in minecraft, really shows how much you dislike the specified player.

Also the fact that there is no real/good evidence that gives enough reason to Perm-ban a player on bfv is something that REALLY bothers me. If we would go around and perm-ban everyone who would say comparable stuff like mentioned above, then we wouldn't really have many people left. Calling someone a Noob is something we ALL do.

Also the argument that soldier is trying to attack everyone on the mc staff is just rediculous. Yes he did indeed detroy parts of fresh' and your buildings, but that doesnt mean he's constantly trying to attack every single one of us! Lastly myself. This is a good example of blacking someone.

Lastly, you claim soldier said things which you cannot prove. We can't ban people without decent proof of him/her doing/saying the claimed fact. Thus, should be left out. It makes him look bad, eventho it's not proven and could be not true.

Therefore I believe this bantopic is a way for beta to release steam on soldier. Now I know that alot of people have discussed this matter with eachother, but I want you to consider the role Beta played in all of this, as I wasn't involved to reflect correctly.

I'm saying all of the above because I believe in this community's integrity, not just because I like or dislike the people involved.
 

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Took you guys long enough. Since hes banned anyways, Its time Ill rat him out. I was aware of him being bossmanswag. I took a stroll to betas town to go bargain shopping. And he comes on the server. I leave, and then come back, he was flying, and he was destroying ground. He used 1 tnt and controller block to destroy it all.
 

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my post is directed towards max

why do you think this is beta taking out something on soldier? beta wasnt the one to issue this ban, nor was he the only one that discussed it

there were more then 5 admins that talked about this and had to make this decision

dont be so quick to assume beta did this by himself... he did everything he needed to and went to everyone he should have

thanks

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Over all, my agreement for Soldier to be ban is insulting other players. That is against the rules. He may not start the insults but he does dish them out. Which, i understand he is defending himself but certain words are uncalled for. The end of this is that everyone needs to agree he insults. Thats why I said he should be ban. If we all agree with that, thats why he is ban in my view.


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Fucking Electrode. Always hitting himself in his confusion -.-.
 

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I have made a long post but havnt posted it cuz theres no need for me to throw more fuel on the fire...yet... but in my veiw him insulting is probably the most minor of his offences.. using fake accounts , attacking or threatening our servers, cheating and disrespecting management is more of a concern... Wouldnt u say?
 
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