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Kurk said:Someone's a newfag.Takke said:snip
Damnit, did you have to ruin this glorious victory against MurderToDeath? I wanted his screen to be full of arguments that totally owned the ones he gaveKurk said:You know text does better for one worded responses, especially when there's a white background.
People who are used to this game (we are talking about most of the people) know how to use the server browser and they speak english. Also if you announce the update persistently in the server chat (like you do it with the server rules) then most of the players will notice and they will follow. Not to forget, there are waiting new + more players in 1.21. They all know the Allmaps server. People on HHK always complain they can't use it.CommandoBeta said:So, knowing only a small group of people will come with HELLO to 1.21, we know that HELLO will have to completely start over with getting popularity in 1.21 ( While HELLO is already the most famous server from 1.2!)
Whatever exploit it is, some other person maybe know it.CommandoBeta said:So the only reason to move the HELLO server to 1.21 and start completely over is to fix a small exploit wich you proberbly cant even name?
Then why would they notice if Allmaps crashes (like many times) and the fake server is the only one that works? :lol:CommandoBeta said:Also a great point by Byrd, as soon as HELLO leaves all the players wont notice and will go to the fake server instead and not go to 1.21. Please. Moving to 1.21 makes no sence and you know it.
MurdertoDeath said:You think they take the complications of "downpatching"(which means to reinstall the whole game + patches), but they wouldn't patch from 1.2 to 1.21? C'mon, let's talk on a serious level! That's just ridiculous!CommandoBeta said:I have seen people downpatching from 1.21 to play at this server.
Maybe you should learn to give arguments. If you learned that you should give arguments in consideration of the facts.CommandoBeta said:If it would move to 1.21 it would loose much of its popularity.
MurdertoDeath said:People who are used to this game (we are talking about most of the people) know how to use the server browser and they speak english. Also if you announce the update persistently in the server chat (like you do it with the server rules) then most of the players will notice and they will follow. Not to forget, there are waiting new + more players in 1.21. They all know the Allmaps server. People on HHK always complain they can't use it.
Still not a reason to start a server all over.Whatever exploit it is, some other person maybe know it.
I have no idea what you mean, but yes, after crashes mostly many people go to the fake server. Since you are new to this forum you proberbly dont know, but there have been many topics about that.Then why would they notice if Allmaps crashes (like many times) and the fake server is the only one that works? :lol:
I understand your fear for making changes, but it's unreasonable.
SgtSurfinByrd said:All maps crashes not because of 1.2 its because of the server not the version,.... do i have to restate all my poinst plus more in list to make it easier to understand? oviusly i do
-Hello has a fake server, and therefore people would go there if wwe moved
-Most players play 1.2, however they are on less often.
-They players who play 1.21 already have servers and most wont change servers.
-Hellos problem is server related not version related (u dont c sexy server crashing do u)
-We have alot of BOB members and other clans who play 1.2 only and have 1.2 servers and therefore wont undate (we are talking about alot of good players.
- at certian times of the day 1.21 might have more players, but it has alot mnore server and therefore onless people pr server
-More competeion on 1.21
-We are talking about the server and all the peopl who play on it. (not just the for server and for you benifit)updated would cause a hassel for all the people who play if they wanted to continue playuing on it
-alot players are here just to play and are not speccifically hello dedicated, and therefore wont update
-all non english peaking players wount update (there are quite a few)
-all current players, spielers, jugadors, and jouners wont update
-all ppeople who dont know how to wont update (there are quite a few of them also)
-all players who dont read the grey print wont update (there are alot of them to)
-most new bfv servers fail
-alot of players on 1.21 dont pay attention to 1.2 servers and wont know about our change
-People prefer to play on the most populated servers, hello if changed whould not be one of them.
-its a hassel to hello and costsmoney to update
-non hello loyalists greatly out number the loyoalists (who are pretty much the people on this forum)
-ect.... ect.. ect... i could go on and on.
That's what you believe. Most people don't go there when Allmaps crashes.SgtSurfinByrd said:-Hello has a fake server, and therefore people would go there if wwe moved
That's proven wrong.SgtSurfinByrd said:-Most players play 1.2, however they are on less often.
That's proven wrong. I played 1.21 as well and i used many servers like many other players did as well. I just missed a good all maps server, that's why i reinstalled the game and play 1.2.SgtSurfinByrd said:-They players who play 1.21 already have servers and most wont change servers.
So a version change wouldn't matter would it?SgtSurfinByrd said:-Hellos problem is server related not version related (u dont c sexy server crashing do u)
I can count the BOB members playing on Allmaps with 4 fingers. They are too few to mention.SgtSurfinByrd said:-We have alot of BOB members and other clans who play 1.2 only and have 1.2 servers and therefore wont undate (we are talking about alot of good players.
Where is the argument??? All those players would love to welcome Allmaps on 1.21. Then they would play on one server.SgtSurfinByrd said:- at certian times of the day 1.21 might have more players, but it has alot mnore server and therefore onless people pr server
If you're convinced Allmaps is a good server then you don't have to fear "competition".SgtSurfinByrd said:-More competeion on 1.21
Downloading a 10MB file and starting it is no hassle! :lol:SgtSurfinByrd said:-We are talking about the server and all the peopl who play on it. (not just the for server and for you benifit)updated would cause a hassel for all the people who play if they wanted to continue playuing on it
That's what you believe. I'm not HELLO dedicated as well. Actually i just joined this forum to make a request. It seems you can't estimate the average players.SgtSurfinByrd said:-alot players are here just to play and are not speccifically hello dedicated, and therefore wont update
Did you count them? :lol:SgtSurfinByrd said:-all non english peaking players wount update (there are quite a few)
For what reason? :lol:SgtSurfinByrd said:-all current players, spielers, jugadors, and jouners wont update
How did they update to 1.2?SgtSurfinByrd said:-all ppeople who dont know how to wont update (there are quite a few of them also)
Don't forget all inactive players won't read it as well. :lol:SgtSurfinByrd said:-all players who dont read the grey print wont update (there are alot of them to)
Example!? Statistics? Where do you get those numbers? And why is Allmaps a new server? Most people on 1.21 know Allmaps, that's chat proven.SgtSurfinByrd said:-most new bfv servers fail
So why is it important? Do you think they won't see the new server in server list?SgtSurfinByrd said:-alot of players on 1.21 dont pay attention to 1.2 servers and wont know about our change
You can be sure it will be one of the most populated servers! Put a little more trust in this great server please!SgtSurfinByrd said:-People prefer to play on the most populated servers, hello if changed whould not be one of them.
That's Hello's business, not yours.SgtSurfinByrd said:-its a hassel to hello and costsmoney to update
Well you repeat your argument from above. I'm also not a Hello "loyalist" (whatever you mean by that).SgtSurfinByrd said:-non hello loyalists greatly out number the loyoalists (who are pretty much the people on this forum)
I'm sure of that. I pay respect to you that you desperately tried to find some arguments and even repeated some of them. :lol:SgtSurfinByrd said:-ect.... ect.. ect... i could go on and on.
That's what you believe. Most people don't go there when Allmaps crashes.SgtSurfinByrd said:-Hello has a fake server, and therefore people would go there if wwe moved
That's proven wrong.SgtSurfinByrd said:-Most players play 1.2, however they are on less often.
That's proven wrong. I played 1.21 as well and i used many servers like many other players did as well. I just missed a good all maps server, that's why i reinstalled the game and play 1.2.SgtSurfinByrd said:-They players who play 1.21 already have servers and most wont change servers.
So a version change wouldn't matter would it?SgtSurfinByrd said:-Hellos problem is server related not version related (u dont c sexy server crashing do u)
I can count the BOB members playing on Allmaps with 4 fingers. They are too few to mention.SgtSurfinByrd said:-We have alot of BOB members and other clans who play 1.2 only and have 1.2 servers and therefore wont undate (we are talking about alot of good players.
Where is the argument??? All those players would love to welcome Allmaps on 1.21. Then they would play on one server.SgtSurfinByrd said:- at certian times of the day 1.21 might have more players, but it has alot mnore server and therefore onless people pr server
If you're convinced Allmaps is a good server then you don't have to fear "competition".SgtSurfinByrd said:-More competeion on 1.21
Downloading a 10MB file and starting it is no hassle! :lol:SgtSurfinByrd said:-We are talking about the server and all the peopl who play on it. (not just the for server and for you benifit)updated would cause a hassel for all the people who play if they wanted to continue playuing on it
That's what you believe. I'm not HELLO dedicated as well. Actually i just joined this forum to make a request. It seems you can't estimate the average players.SgtSurfinByrd said:-alot players are here just to play and are not speccifically hello dedicated, and therefore wont update
Did you count them? :lol:SgtSurfinByrd said:-all non english peaking players wount update (there are quite a few)
For what reason? :lol:SgtSurfinByrd said:-all current players, spielers, jugadors, and jouners wont update
How did they update to 1.2?SgtSurfinByrd said:-all ppeople who dont know how to wont update (there are quite a few of them also)
Don't forget all inactive players won't read it as well. :lol:SgtSurfinByrd said:-all players who dont read the grey print wont update (there are alot of them to)
Example!? Statistics? Where do you get those numbers? And why is Allmaps a new server? Most people on 1.21 know Allmaps, that's chat proven.SgtSurfinByrd said:-most new bfv servers fail
So why is it important? Do you think they won't see the new server in server list?SgtSurfinByrd said:-alot of players on 1.21 dont pay attention to 1.2 servers and wont know about our change
You can be sure it will be one of the most populated servers! Put a little more trust in this great server please!SgtSurfinByrd said:-People prefer to play on the most populated servers, hello if changed whould not be one of them.
That's Hello's business, not yours.SgtSurfinByrd said:-its a hassel to hello and costsmoney to update
Well you repeat your argument from above. I'm also not a Hello "loyalist" (whatever you mean by that).SgtSurfinByrd said:-non hello loyalists greatly out number the loyoalists (who are pretty much the people on this forum)
I'm sure of that. I pay respect to you that you desperately tried to find some arguments and even repeated some of them. :lol:SgtSurfinByrd said:-ect.... ect.. ect... i could go on and on.
They do. Ask anyone. We have all seen it.That's what you believe. Most people don't go there when Allmaps crashes.
It is not, you are just changing the facts now, it varies, it comes close to 50/50.That's proven wrong.
Why would you go to an empty server? No. People will not join an empty server just because they want 'all maps'. So they wont go to the empty 1.21 HELLO server. About the HHK.. those people are most likely going to servers they have already seen on the server list before, not the new HELLO server.That's proven wrong. I played 1.21 as well and i used many servers like many other players did as well. I just missed a good all maps server, that's why i reinstalled the game and play 1.2. Btw. HHK is running out of money, which means there are 30 up to 40 1.21 players looking for a new "home".
No, but it woulndt cause the crashes either, so that will be even a bigger disadvantage, a new server ( to the people of 1.21), wich crashes all the time, will not get popular.So a version change wouldn't matter would it?
I am sorry, but HELLO is like the home of BOB. There are 92 BOB members, so youll need 92 fingers to count them. Ok, not all BOB members play on the server, but I could name 15 without problems.I can count the BOB members playing on Allmaps with 4 fingers. They are too few to mention.
For non English speaking people that is quite a hassle. Yes.Downloading a 10MB file and starting it is no hassle! :lol:
It is proven that most players are not HELLO dedicated, because even when HELLO is back up after a crash, they go to different servers. Like today, the HELLO server was just there, the BOB server was full ( 40 people) and 30 of those were regular HELLO players.That's what you believe. I'm not HELLO dedicated as well. Actually i just joined this forum to make a request. It seems you can't estimate the average players.
Did YOU count them? In one day I could easily count 30.Did you count them? :lol:
They are very likely not to know English ( considering they cant even change their name) so they will most likely not read the gray server text.For what reason?
Many people bought BFV 1.2. ( me included)How did they update to 1.2?
That answer is in the same category as 'icecream wont read it as well'.Don't forget all inactive players won't read it as well. :lol:
SgtSurfinByrd said:-most new bfv servers fail
By 'new server' I think he means a server on wich no people play yet and so it is not popular yet. Example? Allright.Example!? Statistics? Where do you get those numbers? And why is Allmaps a new server? Most people on 1.21 know Allmaps, that's chat proven.
They will not if its somewhere deep down ( no players on).So why is it important? Do you think they won't see the new server in server list?
You can be sure it will be one of the most populated servers! Put a little more trust in this great server please!
Even a great server will not magicly attract players.SgtSurfinByrd said:-its a hassel to hello and costsmoney to update
So because it is HELLO's business, its not an argument against? Oh I think it is.That's Hello's business, not yours.
I'm sure of that. I pay respect to you that you desperately tried to find some arguments and even repeated some of them. :lol:SgtSurfinByrd said:-ect.... ect.. ect... i could go on and on.
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I feared a post like yours. A lot of work for destroying weak "arguments". But ok, i demanded arguments - i give arguments.
How is it beneficial to you for Hello to move to 1.21?
+ F®³§h-ßlood + said:anyone can make a copy of their bfv folder, update one copy to 1.21 , and then just go into x fire options and change the link that starts bfv (in tools/ options/ games), depending on which version u want to play. Which means ppl who play on 1.21 can play on 1.2 at the moment, so i see no point making hello server 1.21, simple..
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