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Mav3rick - Lesuk - Player

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TonyB

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Mav, why do you not report the habitual raping by Lesuk? Guys complain in game about his raping yet nobody ever files any complaint. Why is that? I think I know why.

I was just playing Cambodian Incursion. Player, on blue with his XM, switches to red. Spawns with a shovel kit (I knew what he would do). He picked up the tunnel. Suicided then switched back to blue.

I think the reason guys don't report Lesuk is the same reason I'm not filing a player complaint.
 

HoloDuke

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Pinky,

Some friendly advice - Ice and SK have made changes to accommodate concerns you have raised in the past. Easing the reporting requirements of main rape and disruptive play were the first change. "Easing" requires quite a bit of effort on their part - Ice alluded to this and SK, in an earlier thread, showed us all just how painful it is to review the XML event and activity logs for infractions.

You may not be happy with the results or the changes that they offered but if you think about it, your concerns have definitely not fallen on deaf ears. Continuing make comments about any lack of action is not constructive. Innuendo and passive aggressive remarks are not constructive.
 
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SellOut said:
Pinky,

Some friendly advice - Ice and SK have made changes to accommodate concerns you have raised in the past. Easing the reporting requirements of main rape and disruptive play were the first change. "Easing" requires quite a bit of effort on their part - Ice alluded to this and SK, in an earlier thread, showed us all just how painful it is to review the XML event and activity logs for infractions.

You may not be happy with the results or the changes that they offered but if you think about it, your concerns have definitely not fallen on deaf ears. Continuing make comments about any lack of action is not constructive. Innuendo and passive aggressive remarks are not constructive.

For your information, my post was directed at Maverick. I find it unfortunate that players like Maverick don't come to the forums to report server thugs like Lesuk, Nagi and Player. There were other players whom I greatly respect playing the map where Lesuk was raping and to my recollection, only two of the team were posting comments in the game. I told them, go report them in the forums.

The jist of it is that doing so serves no purpose. The rules are constructed such that Lesuk may freely rape and pillage at his whim. Yeah, so he is banned for a day? A week? Has that ever happened anyway? And the last time I posted a video of Nagi raping, nothing came of it. And even if SK had punished him, it doesn't amount to a pinch of shit.

pinky
 
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TonyB

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Here you go boys.. what came of it? ZERO - Nothing. Nada. Even the logs would show the asswipes doing what they enjoy and nothing is done. So why would Maverick bother posting a complaint?

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IceSkater said:
What point does posting this make?
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The short version: Maverick complained in-game of being raped by Lesuk. He does not bother to come here and post a complaint. Why? I suspect it is because he knows it serves no purpose. If I ran the server, Lesuk would have been perma-banned years ago, but I don't. Players don't want to jump through the hoops to report Lesuk and even when they do, it's a slap on the wrist. His continued behavior is proof that the punishment meted does not work. But nothing changes.
 
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IceSkater said:
The next time, make a report. If you have video, great! If not, I will go completely out of my way to prove you right in accordance with the protocol SK & I made. Just give me a day or two if that is the case.

See my link to the video above. What was done about it?
 

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Pinky, I have a question for you, and I mean it in the most amicable way possible, and I want to know what you think.....

Would you say that the majority of times you accuse someone with proof, something is done about it or nothing is done about it?

If things lean to the side of "nothing was done about it" I understand why you're constantly on our case. And at that point we need to shape up and offer you an apology.

However, if things lean to the side of "something was done about it" then, barring basic human error. We're doing a fine goddamn job of things and maybe we're the ones needing that apology.



However.......if you mean "nothing ever gets done" in the sense that you want HARSHER punishments..... then perhaps you should be more clear about that. Or more clear about what EXACT punishment you want. At that point we can debate it. And once the verdict is out, we can let it go, regardless of the outcome. Because the reality is, the last few months a bunch of rules HAVE changed and ALL of them began with you asking for something. Yet somehow we admins are getting the feeling that none of these changes have been good enough for you. You've been the single most influential common player when its come to rules changing of late. I'm puzzled cause I figured you'd be happy that we listened to you so much! Even now, admin's have been voting on another thing I wont specify THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, and newsflash....the votes lean in your favor! You cannot say we're not listening buddy!

I think what you really want is the perma-banning of Vasok, Lesuk, nagi, doen, phallic, silver, heeler, maddog, emwolb and more.... While that maybe be tempting as hell for me as well, THINK about that..... we'd lose 10+ players FOREVER! Do you think our server can take the hit? If not, perhaps its best to live and let live. These players are ALL subject to our new rules including the repeat offender rules with ESCALATING ban times. Something if you used properly, you'd get better results than you've EVER achieved Pinky.....and yet.....right when the rules change in your favor, you stop recording and seemed to act as if we'd made the rules worse.....

I wish you'd do 4 things for old robo.....

1. Stop threatening to not film
2. Stop saying nothing gets done
3. Be extremely specific with what you want, don't generalize or repeat it 500x, we get it.
4. Acknowledge that while you haven't got everything you want, we are listening to you...


I say this as flattery but it happens to be totally true, you are one of the most goddamn influential players we have here. Someone who surpasses allot of our players in age, wisdom, and life experience. Maybe you should use that to your advantage instead of alienating yourself from the current administration. I understand you've lost your patience, but the admins have lost theirs as well. ;) I'd want to have a beer with you regardless, game or no game.
 
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