Main/Last Base Rape

[Player_0]

Hi everyone!

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My pleasure.

Today's Hastings was impossible to play at US side -- 2 MI-8 and MIG-17 (i.e. all NVA airforce) constantly raped US main not letting choppers and jet to get off, even barely letting US to spawn, and this is the usual common situation on your server. I'm sure this question was raised earlier, but phrase "old topic. closed." is not a solution.

This is a worked out way of acting: you take MI-8 or MIG-17, go to US main (or last spawn they have) and rape it. US has no SA-7 and M.U.T.T. to take you down, and quad .50 can be destroyed in one shot (actually, a half shot for MI-8). Boats are too far to run to. You do not play game at all - no teamwork, no flags capture etc, just earning score. This shit is fun only for you, even not for teammates, but who cares? You just rape enemy base and get the highest score (~80 vs ~20 others) then when seeing you're #1 in scoretable you are damn glad not realising how miserable and narrow-minded you indeed are.

Talking about myself, i even completely agree with Byrd who has offered denying take-off shooting. Yes, that's too complicated rule to be maked common so this remains my own rule. This is just a game, and that's the point: it's meant to be fun and interesting for all community playing, not only for individuals who were lucky to get MI-8.

That shit makes people leave the server or (which is worse) depraves their opinion about it.

Lets make a simple rule about denying spawn rape ie repeatative attacks to main (or last available) base with high firepower vehicles that can not be classified as team covering. And heartlessly ban for that. Why not?

 

[CYBER]

Oke i will make a mod were the towers comme back and were usa don't have cobras but huey gunships. We will lave the mod on the server untill new year ore so. A round new year wwe gonne reinstall the server. Do to lag and errors reported by some players.

leave any more idees fore the mod on the from.

tankboy,

just telle me how u think i can stop the reaping and i will put it in a mod and on ther server.

 

[Anonymous]

Indeeed byrd has thought of this as a rule b4, but raping is a just a part of the game. You cant really stop it effectively. Not to mention it will anger all the people who base rape as travaco has said b4 "Also, we need to put into consideration that there are some *ahem* Pilots *ahem* that play the game for the flying engine alone and taking the helicopters of two or three of the few maps with helicopters would seriously dis-please them. Furthermore, the Mi-8's are no easier to rape with than the hueys, in fact they run out of ammo often times twice as fast". People who ussually baserape in the mig17 have significant skill flying. In addittion, main rape is fair because the main is capturable, and it is only possible to capture a final base/ main with raping of some sort. You should also take into consideration that both sides can base rape. Yes i agree it is unfair, but it is a part of BFV

 

[Zero]

How about a Anti-Rape bubble.....Like when opposite team go's over the mains theirs a way to make people automatically die like if a person was to go out of bounce.I don't know the codes or how its done but i have seen it in other servers before and actually was planning on getting it on my server before i closed it. Also i recommend to add faster Huey re-spawns so people arn't standing on heil pad and people cussing each other out over it.Same with migs + add 1 extra helicopter to spawn on every chopper spawn and add 1 extra plane 2 spawn per team...like everything will be same for the teams people play just there will be double and faster re-spawns i say maybe a 5 second re-spawn time on all vehicles so everyone has a chance to use it....idk work with it but the anti-rape bubble is a great idea to stop helicopter rapist....planes it would have to take longer runs depending on the size of the bubble.Only thing would be i think if u put a bubble over the main....it could kill foot solders to. I'm not sure i would ask a experience modder.Kurk would know but you guys perm-banned him so i dont think he would help without a "price" "wink wink"

 

[Kurk]

rem Kill Red guys
ObjectTemplate.active Hueyrepairpoint
ObjectTemplate.radius 30
ObjectTemplate.team 1
ObjectTemplate.setHealth -1 -6 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType UH1Assault -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType UH1Transport -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType Chinook -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType Cobra -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType Oh-6 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType Mi8 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType Mi8Cargo -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType Ka-25 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType sheridan -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType patton -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType ontos -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType m113 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType nancy -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType quad50 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType mutt -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType mutt2 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType btr60 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType pt76 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType t54 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType bm21sam -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType bm21cargo -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType zsu -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType uaz -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType vespa -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.workOnVehicles 1
ObjectTemplate.workOnSoldiers 1
ObjectTemplate.loadSoundScript ../../../Common/Sounds/SupplyDepot.ssc

rem Kill Blue guys
ObjectTemplate.active Mi8SupplyDepot
ObjectTemplate.radius 30
ObjectTemplate.team 2
ObjectTemplate.setHealth -1 -6 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType UH1Assault -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType UH1Transport -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType Chinook -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType Cobra -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType Oh-6 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType Mi8 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType Mi8Cargo -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType Ka-25 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType sheridan -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType patton -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType ontos -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType m113 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType nancy -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType quad50 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType mutt -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType mutt2 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType btr60 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType pt76 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType t54 -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType bm21sam -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType bm21cargo -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType zsu -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType uaz -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.addVehicleType vespa -1 -2 0
ObjectTemplate.workOnVehicles 1
ObjectTemplate.workOnSoldiers 1
ObjectTemplate.loadSoundScript ../../../Common/Sounds/SupplyDepot.ssc

Object.create Hueyrepairpoint
Object.absolutePosition x/x/x

Object.create Mi8SupplyDepot
Object.absolutePosition x/x/x

There's the code. Knock yourself out.

 

[CYBER]

Idk a bout adding that code. I don't tink many members will like it. I am just tinking of adding some more helicopters. And ad some more aa to the main of usa and nva. Ore i put may mod i made some time a go.http://www.xfire.com/video/1bfd75/. I think it is a nice mod fore on the server but it doesn't fix the main reaping problem.

 

[Tedde]

im sorry guys but this isnt a problem its a allowed rule, we attract players by not having complicated rules for new players.

though we could add a few extra ZSU's and artillery so that you can defend yourself worthy against the enemy

 

[Player_0]

though we could add a few extra ZSU's and artillery so that you can defend yourself worthy against the enemy

Thank you for your reply, but on the other hand irrelevant weapons (i mean ZSU at USA) will make Hello BFV Allmaps look like Sexy server. Quad 0.50 may help but it's fragile...

I agree with admins that modding should be minimal and only vitally needed (like with towers on flaming dart) because having untouched maps is the key advantage of hello server! I was talking just about making a rule that baseraping is denied, that's all.

You see, when some players ask rapers to stop, they go "no I won't stop because there's no such rule". When you come out with that rule we will have something to appeal with to them. If doesn't work -- they will be reported and get banned. And talking about other guys who dont read rules -- they are noobs and cant perform effective raping - they kill 1-2 men and then crash into a tree.

 

[CYBER]

i think wee need to make a poll fore this. so ppl can vote fore what they tinks is the best way to fix this.

 

[Tedde]

I agree 100% that the server should be modded minimal, but adding this rule might create more problems and complaints then what it is now. I remember when i started playing bfv and me and all my friends were fighting to get the heli to go to usa main and camp to get the best score. Im sure you guys did this aswell and its not to be shamed of. But i think there is a hidden issue, when ppl are on v1.21 it means they have upgraded = it means they know how to do it, which means they are probably pretty familiar with bfv gameplay and chatting etc, but when you buy a new copy of bfv you get directly to version 1.2, you sort the serverlist by players and find hello, you go in kill ppl and suddenly your kicked ( For Raping ) would you guys understand this if your new?...

Its not that im afraid of trying new things, We have had this rule before on hello and it didnt work out well...

I still belive adding a small amount of artillery for usa on this map will create more balance, nva got their sa7's.

 

[Zero]

no no no no my post was ment to have it modded Hastings modded. nothing more re-read it. No reason to kick people over main rape im a main rapist myself i personally enjoy it.But if you wanted to limit main rape read what i said and i think kurk gave the codess above. ^^

 

[Kurk]

Vanilla BFV. LOL, the irony..

 

[ArcticWinter]

I think it can be annoying sometimes, but still i like it. It really test your skills as US soldier. Im one of the few thinking players at hello server; I can get out of the main, sometimes i kill'n steal a sa7 and shot down ememy air at US main, and one of my biggest questions is, why do all the stupid players keep walking around uncovered??? It's silly that they can't think that far to take cover in a house and wait, instead of getting killed.

People that complain about it is either in bad mood (had a bad day home) or just really stupid to keep walking around and get killed!! BFV aint just; Take a gun and shot, they need to learn how to think!!

 

[CommandoBeta]

I think the bubble is the best idea. Even new players will understand after a few times that when they get close to the main in a verhicle they just die. I don't think there should be more air verhicles because then the infantry in other parts of the maps wont stand a chance.

 

[Tedde]

but still, something i love to do is to snipe on the usa main, move position after every 2nd kill, and when out of ammo, closely and quietly move in with pistol, grab ammo kill enemies and move back to the hill. Thats a real adventure /

 

[ArcticWinter]

I dont know where my reply is?? I made one two days ago, lol. Well i think that it really test your skills as a US soldier, Hastings and Khe Sahn; Same battle all the time, baseraping, that's how it is get used to it! I think it is fun to experience battles like that, to be in a hopeless situation and dont know what to do, it makes the players think a little more, but instead of doing that most players says: Noobs, Rapers and so on.

And just for ask!! Do any players have any idea of what "Timing" is??????

 

[Player_0]

Well I'm not that stupid to stand still typing 'stop rape' while getting instantly killed. I sure do run to nearest cover and wait a chance to get a chopper, pick co-pilot and take off to kill a bastard. Rape is annoying anyway. The corresponding rule will decrease it.

And just for ask!! Do any players have any idea of what "Timing" is??????

What do you mean? What 'timing'?

 

[ArcticWinter]

I mean that if you see a MI8 flying above your base, then when you are out of it's sight you can make a move to next structure or for an example, if you want a huey, if you can see a incoming chopper in the far moving closer to main, then 10% of the players figures out; Take cover, the other 90% keep waiting at a huey and get shot. It is so stupid! Getting out of a base is easy, just keep going from structure to structure while you are out of the helicopters sight.

That is called "Timing"

 

[Player_0]

Well that's the very way i usually do, didn't know it's called 'timings'. Mi8 even helps me to clear a huey-camping queue. But that's not a problem. The problem is to take off when you got it and raping mi8 has second charge unused. Sure there are times when it happens it is turned back and because it's slow you can take off, but those times are rare, usually you get shot on takeoff.

 

[ArcticWinter]

well there don't exsist a word for that, but what i mean is that people (like you said) should learn to take cover instead of wating on a helicopter to repsawn and get killed.

I think raping is good (lol)