Helis and such

[Anonymous]

Byrd always being on the US/ARVN side often experiences mi-8 raping. Byrd knows we rape with helis, but it is harder to rape with the cobra than the mi-8 or huey gunship

OPERATION GAME WARDEN: The Viet Cong did not have an airforce, let alone helicopters. Maybe removing the Mi-8 here would be nice. Also being 1965 the USA did not have huey gunships yet. Maybe removing the one of mi-8 and the Huey Gunship/Slick will be a good idea.

SIAGON 1968: This map is just not right to Byrds Standards. A: Again the Viet Cong did not have an airforce, let alone helicopters, the mi-8 SHOULD BE REMOVED here. The assault on siagon was from under ground, and you cant fit a heli underground.

Fact: altough the NVA had Mi-8s, they never used them in combat against the USA/ARVN, furthermore they only recieved the transpot version.

Maybe removing the Mi-8 attack helis and mi-8 transport version (Langvei only) would be a nice and instead replacing them with tunnels which the commustist vietnamese used them in every singe operation execpt Hue. In addition the USA had total air superiority durring the course of the vietnam war.

 

[Travco]

Ok byrd, as we mentioned in other subjects. Modding the server results in occasional in-stability and server crashes. Also, we need to put into consideration that there are some *ahem* Pilots *ahem* that play the game for the flying engine alone and taking the helicopters of two or three of the few maps with helicopters would seriously dis-please them. Furthermore, the Mi-8's are no easier to rape with than the hueys, in fact they run out of ammo often times twice as fast; the key bit is that the NVA or Vietcong have Sa-7's that can shoot down helicopters at range much easier than a LAW for instance. However even sa-7's can be ditched by a good pilot.

I think the key issue that your not realizing being mostly a "grounded byrd" is that most of the better pilots often choose the US side for the maneuverable helicopters, and those good pilots really don't base rape often.

 

[Anonymous]

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[Travco]

Could you please respond with an actual post, three dots isn't exactly a legitimate post, (often called spam)

 

[Anonymous]

Srry, i was trying to respond to "'Grounded' byrd" which was rather insulting.
Could you at leat remove the mi8 from saigon 68 or add a huey gunship or cobra to make it more fair considering the USA only gets a huey slick.

 

[Tedde]

changing stuff like this usually just creates more problems than solves the one your requesting.
Maybe you feel this way about these maps, but 30 other people feel a different way. And then they come here and request to get it back.
Now the question is if your arguments are worth changing or not...

 

[Anonymous]

byrd has gotten a tad more leineint with this... byrd still the he mi8 tranport is the cheapest weapon in the game and gives the nva a totally unfair advantage on fall of lang vie, i mean the us does even have a box! You can nuetralize the mi8 if you are smart with the huey slick and have an engineere in it, but most peple dont do that... byrd still think saigon 1968 and fall of lang vie should be changed though

 

[CommandoBeta]

Yeah I agree saigon68 shoulndt have a mi8, perhaps they should get a ka27 or whatever its called, that would be a little unfair to the huey but at least its less good to infantry..

 

[CYBER]

i think we schouldn't add any helies. in the maps were usa has air veniche they normaly lose. so who cares.

 

[Player_0]

Byrd, you're right, but I think the point of this server is untouched maps and there's no reason to lose it (except towers on dart). It would be great to have another server like HELLO BFV ModMaps having whatever-like modded maps with helicopters on Fall of Saigon and no spawn MI-8s on Lang Vei, but since servers are not cheap and it's not that necessary, it's gonna remain as an idea.

 

[Anonymous]

Byrd is not for the mod maps thing.... byrd just wants a few changes... anyway leaving the maps untouched... they used to have cedar falls moded... but that became tunnels only and was doomed for total base raping. However byrd has seen that hello likes some historical accuracy. And the in 1968 the viecong attacked saigon along with i think 70ish other cities in the tet offencive from under ground (except for hue). they could not have bought a heli to saigon, that far south of the boarder, and they didnot... no helis were used by the vietcong in the tet offencive. (not to mention the vietcong DID NOT even have a airforce, let alone helis). Byrd things saigon1968 should be changed.
ASLO would replacing the a-7 corsair with the a-1 skyraider cause problems (probably byrd assumes)[?] because byrd thinks the skyraider (Gun form) is better than the corsair (besides the lack of radar) and would make the maps a little more fair...